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Friday, May 4, 2012

Co-Conspirator

Yesterday I went to Zercool's blog where he had posted a comment from Sean, that Sean had left at Jigsaw's Thoughts blog.

Of course, I popped on over to see what all the fuss was about.  Essentially someone who appears to be anti gun engaged in a conversation with Julie.  Nothing really new or earth shattering in his argument and Julie, of course, handled it brilliantly.  When I got to the comments, Sean said...

"The fact that you would demand that Jigsaw stand meekly and get hurt or killed rather than fight back makes you effectively a co-conspirator with the attacker". 

I read that line and it was an ah-moment for me. I thought that is exactly what the defenders of criminals are; they are co-conspirators, but then they are in it for their own reasons and I am not sure I have any hope of effecting their thinking or their behavior, but as I thought about his statement, I thought, what about me?  What about you?

When, we refuse to take responsibility for our own safety, our own lives, when we sit back and find reason after reason to justify doing nothing, we are in effect co-conspirators with our attacker. Now, the main difference being that unlike many anti-gunners there is no malice in our actions.  Bad guys are bad and someone who doesn't prepare for their own defense is not really culpable in that manner, but by doing nothing or very little, we are helping them.  A victim of a crime does not deserve the blame, but why make it any easy on these people?  Why help them to cause you harm?  


JD at Guns, Guns, and Gosh Darn More Guns has an interesting post up this morning.

25 Comments:

At May 4, 2012 at 5:41 AM , Blogger CTone said...

I like to think that in stopping a scumbag, I could potentially be stopping him/her from harming someone else in the future.

 
At May 4, 2012 at 6:20 AM , Blogger God, Gals, Guns, Grub said...

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." ~Edmund Burke

"Worse than evil triumphing is when weak men (and women) stop good men (and women) from doing something." ~Dann in Ohio

Dann in Ohio

 
At May 4, 2012 at 7:17 AM , Blogger Broken Andy said...

"but then they are in it for their own reasons and I am not sure I have any hope of effecting their thinking or their behavior"

I think it is the rare person who openly and readily admits the flaws in their personal philosophy. I know some people don't argue with the anti's because they think it is pointless. And for some it is. But just because you don't clearly win the argument on the spot doesn't mean you haven't won the argument in the long run. Also, arguing with anti's online tends to present the opportunity to sway on-lookers. You may not win the argument with your opponent, but you might with a bystander.

 
At May 4, 2012 at 7:18 AM , Blogger Sean D Sorrentino said...

Here's how you can be a real force for good, Girl. When someone's being a real jerk about you having a gun and training to protect yourself, say something like this...

"Oh, so you want me to be helpless? You want me to get raped or possibly killed? Where were you when it was happening to me? I didn't see you there trying to save me when the attacker came for me and my daughter. So if you don't want me to get raped and/or killed, and you aren't going to follow me around and guard me yourself, just shut up and let me do what I need to do to protect myself. If you really cared about peace, and justice, you wouldn't be trying to make me a helpless victim! You wouldn't be taking the side of my rapist and killer!"

Modify as you see fit. Getting emotional and crying a bit while you light their ass up helps also.

Don't do this with everyone. This is just the great big cannon you haul out and use to blast the biggest anti-self defense jerk in the room. Make sure to have an audience so that even if he's a psychopath who feels no shame, everyone else who hears you will be afraid forever after of "taking the side of your rapist." Hey, they play emotional games, we should be able to do so as well.

They need to face what they are actually doing. They are disarming you so that you can't possibly stop an attacker from having his way with you. They are accessories before the fact. First they take away your weapon, and then they take away your will to defend yourself by blaming YOU for the violence of fighting back.

You're familiar with the mindset that this line of reasoning leads to. You've described the pain of trying to unlearn the helplessness that you were taught and was demanded of you. The people who told you that unless you were helpless and unable to even conceive of fighting back, assisted your attacker by making you the perfect victim.

And don't think that the predators of the world aren't happy about that type of social indoctrination.

 
At May 4, 2012 at 8:28 AM , Blogger Sport Pilot said...

I'm rather proud of you because as my wife would say "you decided to put on your big girl pant's", translated as "grown up and not putting up with stupid or dangerous people anymore".

 
At May 4, 2012 at 8:39 AM , Blogger TheMinuteman said...

Or as most simply put by Edmund Burke,

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

There's a reason I refer to anti-rights cultists as Criminal Occupational Hazard Reduction Organizations.

What is most ironic is that you carry a gun to fight back. They don't like that fact and instead say you should call someone else to bring their gun. WTF!?

 
At May 4, 2012 at 9:47 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you want to understand the lefts warped thinking of why your supposed to accept violence in your life check out Robin of Berkeley a writer for American Thinker. Go to her articles and start with the oldest. Caution though, she like you went through an ugly assault on her person, only it didn't turn out as well for her as it did for you. She's ok now but like you had to go through a difficult journey of recovery.

 
At May 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM , Blogger agirlandhergun said...

Thank you. I just read some of her story and your right we share much. I will link her later. I appreciate you telling me about her.

 
At May 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM , Blogger agirlandhergun said...

Yes, WTF, is right!!

 
At May 4, 2012 at 10:48 AM , Blogger agirlandhergun said...

Thank you. That made me smile! Your wife sounds very smart:)

 
At May 4, 2012 at 10:49 AM , Blogger agirlandhergun said...

I am trying very hard to do a better job of speaking up and learning how to use my experience to fight this warped way the liberals think.

It's getting easier. Thanks!

 
At May 4, 2012 at 10:50 AM , Blogger agirlandhergun said...

That is a very, very point!

 
At May 4, 2012 at 10:50 AM , Blogger agirlandhergun said...

Both excellent points. Thank you!

 
At May 4, 2012 at 10:51 AM , Blogger agirlandhergun said...

There is that too!

 
At May 4, 2012 at 5:33 PM , Blogger 45er said...

Again, you've got it right, Agirl. I've never been able to wrap my head around the kind of person that intentionally fights to disarm victims. Being oblivious is one thing. Vocally telling someone they shouldn't be able to defend themselves, well it's almost blasphemous.

 
At May 4, 2012 at 6:37 PM , Blogger Sport Pilot said...

Yep she is that. We’re both in different grad school programs to get into different careers when I retire from law enforcement. She’s aiming for environmental sustainability work I plan to be a Rule 31 Mediator.

 
At May 6, 2012 at 8:20 AM , Blogger Jacked Up Glock Mom said...

You know, when the anti-gun folks complain about guns, and why law abiding citizens want to carry.. I come back with this comment: "So, if you see your daughter, wife, mother, sister or etc. getting raped and brutally attacked..would you just stand there and cower away, or try to beat off the attacker?"
most will say "beat off the attacker"...
"Well, then" I say: " my point has been made".
I then go on to say: " what is the difference if you use a baseball bat vs. a gun? both can kill"... Then I get the most awesome "i put my foot in my mouth" look from them...

 
At May 6, 2012 at 8:31 AM , Blogger RabidAlien said...

Double-standards....anti's has dem.

 
At May 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM , Blogger Old NFO said...

Concur, that was a statement that IS correct as far as I'm concerned...

 
At May 7, 2012 at 4:47 AM , Blogger 1911Jeeps said...

Hypocrisy - defining anti-gunners since the flintlock.

 
At May 7, 2012 at 6:21 AM , Blogger agirlandhergun said...

See, this is why I like you...common sense and gumption!

 
At May 7, 2012 at 6:22 AM , Blogger agirlandhergun said...

I'm learning:)

 
At May 7, 2012 at 6:22 AM , Blogger agirlandhergun said...

I guess we are all hypocrites to some degree, but their thinking is might dangerous.

 
At May 7, 2012 at 11:26 AM , Blogger RabidAlien said...

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At May 7, 2012 at 11:29 AM , Blogger RabidAlien said...

Mis-post, my bad.

 

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